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Not The Normies

We are a group of people sharing our experience with recovery from drug and alcohol addiction. Not all paths are smooth...

Our show is very organic, unscripted talk about our past and everyday life. We just sit in front of the microphone and start talking.

Our hope is to share with others what recovery can look like and to show the face of addiction loud and proud so the \"Normies\" (Folks without addictions) can understand us a little better, and those seeking help can find a pathway to recovery.

At times we interview professionals in the field of recovery to share the resources and support available.

We hope you enjoy listening!

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